Comments on: MMR and Statistical Manipulation

By: David Bradley

David Bradley — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:00:41 +0000

In a case-control study, the presence of measles virus RNA was no more likely in children with autism and GI disturbances than in children with only GI disturbances. Furthermore, GI symptom and autism onset were unrelated to MMR vaccine timing.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080904145218.htm

By: David Bradley

David Bradley — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:36:01 +0000

The government has launched a campaign to raise MMR vaccination rates in England amid growing concerns about a measles epidemic – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7545151.stm

By: John fryer

John fryer — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:41:00 +0000

Any paper that purports to debate whether mercury is good or bad should a priori have measurements of mercury. I note all these papers to my understanding have not one single mercury measurement.
How do you prove mercury is good or bad for us when you have absolutely no scientific basis for whether there is any or no mercury in patients or controls.
It reminds me of many things
1 Chemical company – our animals die with this new chemical. Regulatory authority – use more resistant animals. Chemical company – the new animals are just fine now. Regulatory authority – you are permitted to market your product.
2 What or who actually allowed the most toxic non radioactive element mercury to be put in vaccines?
Chemical company – 22 humans had no adverse reaction to mercury. Regulatory authority – fine use the stuff in vaccines. Later – weeks later all the 22 had died. Chemical company – Do nothing! Tell no one! 2008 – every adult should have a (mercury) flu vaccine, its not too late in the season to have yours.
3 A leading epidemiologist was the late Sir Richard Doll ( how do you spell Sir?). His papers revealed he received a cheque for more than a thousand pounds from a chemical company for his services. How do you receive money and then judge their products fairly? Murders are known to have been committed for less than this.
4 Professor Virginia Wong et al did do mercury levels in 2004 and find that mercury and autism were not statistically connected. The problem was their maths or statistics was wrong. When forced to change the figures to those that agree with the data they still insisted there was no connection although now statistically there was. How do you say this when your figures show there is a connection?
5 It seems as if no connection will be seen even it is seen. I suggest we use the scientific traditon of just a few years ago and publish papers which show us something. Where is the benefit of every published paper meticulously showing us that nothing is happening?
6 We need people today who can say yes X causes Y. The USA agencies tracked two deaths to one small field in some obscure corner of the country. The inability to track down 5 million deaths and illness to any cause let alone the most toxic non radioactive element present in every vaccine that the chindren ever had seems to be the best fairy story of the festive season I have ever heard.

By: John fryer

John fryer — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:59:48 +0000

Hi Everyone

Mercury is not the ‘primary’ cause of autism.

Note that first of all this is one article which therefore by implication acknowledges that mercury is a nerve destroying toxin and must play a part in illness and death. A chemical and clinical exactitude.

There is no doubt that mercury must be banned worldwide from vaccines. All those involved in vaccines agree but government and regulation lag years behind. Mercury is used to make Hep B vaccine and is recommended in other vaccines. The publicity that it is out and autism is not falling is bizarre. It is intellectually dishonest to talk about falling or not falling inicdence of an illness when the factor involved is still fulminating in vaccines.

Lets get a universal and solid ban, wait 7 years and then look at figures.

In the mean time people are not just getting ill from mercury they are dying. Worse the moms are being arrested and imprisoned to cover up the harm.

A look at VAERS shows hundreds of thousands of examples of vaccine harm and predominantly and overwhelmingly mercury laced vaccines are those involved.

I predict if action is not taken and truths admitted we will see an abandonment of vaccination except for those illnesses where there is a real need as opposed to a commercial profit need.

The use of mercury vaccines for the elderly is more akin to eugenics than prophylaxis but is currently the biggest money earner.

GSK, Aventis-Pasteur, Merck: Licensed to Kill? That was in 007 not 008. Lets move on please.

By: David Bradley

David Bradley — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:07:23 +0000

John and others, what’s your take on the recent study that seems to show removing thimerosal from vaccines does not affect autism outcomes (why would it, after all?)

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080107181551.htm

By: David Bradley

David Bradley — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:53:11 +0000

John, Gideon, thanks for the additional comments and links

By: strange but true

strange but true — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:13:02 +0000

An interesting interview:
Professor Christopher Nordin, AO, Visiting Professor at the University of Adelaide and a consultant physician at the Royal Adelaide Hospital, discusses the influence the pharmaceutical industry has on doctors’ prescribing habits.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/ockhamsrazor/stories/2007/2056879.htm#transcript
David – I hope you don’t mind me linking to it.

By: John fryer

John fryer — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:21:55 +0000

Vaccination is good and I was more than happy not to be exposed to the threat of smallpox and polio.
But you can’t overload people with vaccines and you can’t prove its safe then change the rules by giving it to younger people, different ethnic groups and not checking safety long term.
Chemicals of any type toxic or good can have effects together. There was the famous grapefruit case where people used grapefruit to hide the awful taste and got awful results.
Vaccinating at age 1 day can never be a good idea. The reason is blindingly simple and obvious. If the child screams for the next two months how do you know this isn’t your child. Conversely if your child sleeps 24 hours and wakes up for his feed how do you know this isn’t your child.
Millions of adverse reactions go missed because the little infant can only sleep or scream he can’t tell you you are a blithering idiot to try to kill him or her.
I remember getting all my vaccines and if they weren’t good for me I would be too young to take the consequences for any qction I took against my doctor.
I thought doctors were brilliant though! But today well I would be more discerning.
In my infancy I marvelled at how the doc knew I had measles before I stepped into his office.
Today I can go with a pain enough to kill me and all he says is – how do you expect me to know what is wrong – take these pills.
In the measles case I would be his 100 th patient for the day.
In the second I was the only one with these symptoms.
Yes OK measles vaccine but just the measles PLEASE.

By: ChemSpiderMan

ChemSpiderMan — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:51:34 +0000

Just a post to point you to another conversation going on in the blogosphere right now..

http://chemistrylabnotebook.blogspot.com/

Flu vaccine and thimerosal

By: David Bradley

David Bradley — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:48:43 +0000

On the same day that there are calls in the UK to vaccinate all children against chicken pox (Varicella zoster) despite there only being a few dozen who have suffered severe complications and no significant stats revealed on putative side effects of the vaccine, I also hear that America may be over vaccinating. What are we to make of this?