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	<title>Comments on: Nobel Prize for Medicine 2008</title>
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		<title>By: Cajunsteve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cajunsteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read and re-read many histories regarding Prof. Robert Gallo&#039;s &quot;work&quot; on the discovery of the virus that causes AIDS, it is clear that his efforts at least directly and deliberately DELAYED recognition of the significance of the French discovery by at least  9 months, if not longer, at an absolute critical time in the spread of HIV.  The test he developed and rushed to market was markedly inferior to the French test, available at the same time, and several identifiable people were infected with HIV through blood transfusions or organ donations directly as a result.  It is not unreasonable to believe that 10s to 100s of 1000s of HIV infections might have been avoided had Gallo never existed and had the French discovery therefore been recognized when first presented in 1983.  Gallo should be in prison for his &quot;contribution&quot; to AIDS, rather than given awards for it.  Please read &quot;Science Fictions&quot; http://www.sciencefictions.net/about.html if you are interested in the full story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read and re-read many histories regarding Prof. Robert Gallo&#8217;s &#8220;work&#8221; on the discovery of the virus that causes AIDS, it is clear that his efforts at least directly and deliberately DELAYED recognition of the significance of the French discovery by at least  9 months, if not longer, at an absolute critical time in the spread of HIV.  The test he developed and rushed to market was markedly inferior to the French test, available at the same time, and several identifiable people were infected with HIV through blood transfusions or organ donations directly as a result.  It is not unreasonable to believe that 10s to 100s of 1000s of HIV infections might have been avoided had Gallo never existed and had the French discovery therefore been recognized when first presented in 1983.  Gallo should be in prison for his &#8220;contribution&#8221; to AIDS, rather than given awards for it.  Please read &#8220;Science Fictions&#8221; <a href="http://www.sciencefictions.net/about.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencefictions.net/about.html</a> if you are interested in the full story.</p>
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		<title>By: irfan</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/nobel-prize-for-medicine-2008.html/comment-page-2#comment-631236</link>
		<dc:creator>irfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thing it a problem going for noble prize in case of hiv :the needed 2 give them noble prize next year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thing it a problem going for noble prize in case of hiv :the needed 2 give them noble prize next year</p>
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		<title>By: Arunan</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/nobel-prize-for-medicine-2008.html/comment-page-2#comment-573400</link>
		<dc:creator>Arunan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In developing countires science education is hampered not only by the conspicuous absence of tall figures in science, to be shown as examples to students, but also for want of reliable but sufficiently sensational information on grand findings. Nobel winners are hard to come by in these regions. However, one event  we at the Sophia College for Women celebrate, as an innovative means of pedagogical exercise, is the year&#039;s Nobel winning work in Biology,Chemistry and Physics.

This year&#039;s Nobel in Physiology and Medicine  shared by workers in the area HPV and HIV is welcome though, the complete silence in the media on Robert Gallo in the context of HIV has been found by some of us as ahistorical, to say the least. For us, who were witness the unfolding story of the HIV in the 1980s and the claims and counter-claims by scientists across the Atlantic, again, the near silence regarding the erstwhile candidate for AIDS, the HTLV III too amounts to silencing an era! This piece of history too is of great pedagogical significance!
M.C.Arunan,
Brain Research &amp; Cognitive Sciences Laboratory,
Department of Lifescience, Sophia College for Women, Mumbai-400 026, India</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In developing countires science education is hampered not only by the conspicuous absence of tall figures in science, to be shown as examples to students, but also for want of reliable but sufficiently sensational information on grand findings. Nobel winners are hard to come by in these regions. However, one event  we at the Sophia College for Women celebrate, as an innovative means of pedagogical exercise, is the year&#8217;s Nobel winning work in Biology,Chemistry and Physics.</p>
<p>This year&#8217;s Nobel in Physiology and Medicine  shared by workers in the area HPV and HIV is welcome though, the complete silence in the media on Robert Gallo in the context of HIV has been found by some of us as ahistorical, to say the least. For us, who were witness the unfolding story of the HIV in the 1980s and the claims and counter-claims by scientists across the Atlantic, again, the near silence regarding the erstwhile candidate for AIDS, the HTLV III too amounts to silencing an era! This piece of history too is of great pedagogical significance!<br />
M.C.Arunan,<br />
Brain Research &amp; Cognitive Sciences Laboratory,<br />
Department of Lifescience, Sophia College for Women, Mumbai-400 026, India</p>
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		<title>By: Slavenka Kam-Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slavenka Kam-Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Gallo discovered HTLV-1 and 2, the first two human retroviruses which are transforming viruses and cause leukemia.  The French group consisting of several scientists, Drs. Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier being two probably crucial ones, isolated HIV at least six months before Dr. Gallo did it.  I worked at that very laboratory at the Institute Pasteur about a year after they isolated the virus.  Several times I heard the story that cultures of HIV were sent to Gallo but that he for several months did not believe that &quot;the French virus&quot; was a retrovirus because it killed and not transformed the cells.  Gallo was primarily interested of human tumor viruses and was a bit over focused on the concept that the retroviruses were transforming more than lytic.  However, Gallo indeed was a pioneer in discovering the above two leukemia viruses.

While working at the Institut Pasteur, it was obvious to me that Françoise Barré-Sinoussi was technically a superior scientist who did most of the viral culture and viral detection work during the discovery period of HIV.   FBS was highly respected by her colleagues at the laboratory.  Dr. Luc Montagnier was the senior scientist of the team and at the time I worked at the laboratory, he was leading another department at the Institut Pasteur.  There is no doubt that the French group was indeed the first who isolated HIV.  The greatness of Gallo was his persistence in searching for human transforming retrovirus against the dogma of that time that tumor viruses were found in mice and other animals and not in humans.

The name not often mentioned any more that deserves enormous respect is that of Dr. Howard Temin who got Nobel Prize more than 30 years ago.  He was not only the person who first discovered the enzyme reverse transcriptase (RT) which is essential for the persistence of retroviral infection, but an incredibly fine human being whose discovery of RT completely changed the understanding of genetics and revolutionarized viral technology.  Dr. Temin shared his Nobel Prize with Dr. David Baltimore but several virologists from that time told me that Dr. Temin was the true father of RT even if these two scientists published the discovery of RT in the same issue of the Nature, summer of 1970.
Without the discovery of the RT, it would not have been possible to discover HIV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Gallo discovered HTLV-1 and 2, the first two human retroviruses which are transforming viruses and cause leukemia.  The French group consisting of several scientists, Drs. Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier being two probably crucial ones, isolated HIV at least six months before Dr. Gallo did it.  I worked at that very laboratory at the Institute Pasteur about a year after they isolated the virus.  Several times I heard the story that cultures of HIV were sent to Gallo but that he for several months did not believe that &#8220;the French virus&#8221; was a retrovirus because it killed and not transformed the cells.  Gallo was primarily interested of human tumor viruses and was a bit over focused on the concept that the retroviruses were transforming more than lytic.  However, Gallo indeed was a pioneer in discovering the above two leukemia viruses.</p>
<p>While working at the Institut Pasteur, it was obvious to me that Françoise Barré-Sinoussi was technically a superior scientist who did most of the viral culture and viral detection work during the discovery period of HIV.   FBS was highly respected by her colleagues at the laboratory.  Dr. Luc Montagnier was the senior scientist of the team and at the time I worked at the laboratory, he was leading another department at the Institut Pasteur.  There is no doubt that the French group was indeed the first who isolated HIV.  The greatness of Gallo was his persistence in searching for human transforming retrovirus against the dogma of that time that tumor viruses were found in mice and other animals and not in humans.</p>
<p>The name not often mentioned any more that deserves enormous respect is that of Dr. Howard Temin who got Nobel Prize more than 30 years ago.  He was not only the person who first discovered the enzyme reverse transcriptase (RT) which is essential for the persistence of retroviral infection, but an incredibly fine human being whose discovery of RT completely changed the understanding of genetics and revolutionarized viral technology.  Dr. Temin shared his Nobel Prize with Dr. David Baltimore but several virologists from that time told me that Dr. Temin was the true father of RT even if these two scientists published the discovery of RT in the same issue of the Nature, summer of 1970.<br />
Without the discovery of the RT, it would not have been possible to discover HIV.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay Pandey, Mumbai</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/nobel-prize-for-medicine-2008.html/comment-page-2#comment-558677</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjay Pandey, Mumbai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Gallo is and will  always remain equally &quot;noble though he missed the Nobel&quot; in the hearts and minds of as many of his admirers as ever before, around the globe and in India too.He  without   fail needs a  more special mention in this category. We live only once and will not have another Gallo to that podium, i never know. He&#039;s outstanding.
As regards it is late ot recognise their work so late, I think it sincks down to many  years of establishment of the work and the citations 10,000 to get to  be reaching the acceptance level.
Nobel rigid levels.
Anyone knows who all were nominated in the medicine category apart from this team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Gallo is and will  always remain equally &#8220;noble though he missed the Nobel&#8221; in the hearts and minds of as many of his admirers as ever before, around the globe and in India too.He  without   fail needs a  more special mention in this category. We live only once and will not have another Gallo to that podium, i never know. He&#8217;s outstanding.<br />
As regards it is late ot recognise their work so late, I think it sincks down to many  years of establishment of the work and the citations 10,000 to get to  be reaching the acceptance level.<br />
Nobel rigid levels.<br />
Anyone knows who all were nominated in the medicine category apart from this team.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/nobel-prize-for-medicine-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-558653</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nobel committee could have so easily avoided the problem and added Gallo to the list, simply by leaving HPV to another year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nobel committee could have so easily avoided the problem and added Gallo to the list, simply by leaving HPV to another year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Sanjay Pandey, Mumbai</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/nobel-prize-for-medicine-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-558176</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Sanjay Pandey, Mumbai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If memory serves us all right, then peace was brokered by the 2 heads of state  Ronald Reagen and Jacques Chirac then in perhaps 1987-88 that the credit to French and American team was equal in this revolutionising  discovery.
the important points that I m aware of is  Nobel Prize can be not shared beyond 3 scientists and the group with more citation takes it all. In fact one needs to be cited at least 10.000 times !!
In all recent years its the French group that has been cited most of the time in scientific world.
Its sad that  Prof Robert Gallo does not find a mention of his name even duringthe ceremony as someone who contributed to the outstanding discovery at similar point of time.
Neverthless, the remarkable disocvery that did a revolution to the mankind has been finally recognised so well.
In fact, I very personally believe that there are two major discoveries of the last century : INTERNET and HIV.Glad both have had proper recognitions now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If memory serves us all right, then peace was brokered by the 2 heads of state  Ronald Reagen and Jacques Chirac then in perhaps 1987-88 that the credit to French and American team was equal in this revolutionising  discovery.<br />
the important points that I m aware of is  Nobel Prize can be not shared beyond 3 scientists and the group with more citation takes it all. In fact one needs to be cited at least 10.000 times !!<br />
In all recent years its the French group that has been cited most of the time in scientific world.<br />
Its sad that  Prof Robert Gallo does not find a mention of his name even duringthe ceremony as someone who contributed to the outstanding discovery at similar point of time.<br />
Neverthless, the remarkable disocvery that did a revolution to the mankind has been finally recognised so well.<br />
In fact, I very personally believe that there are two major discoveries of the last century : INTERNET and HIV.Glad both have had proper recognitions now.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/nobel-prize-for-medicine-2008.html/comment-page-1#comment-553985</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Presumably, they&#039;ve held off recognising these till there was some kind of solution on the horizon - vaccines - or maybe not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumably, they&#8217;ve held off recognising these till there was some kind of solution on the horizon &#8211; vaccines &#8211; or maybe not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Prof K D Baruah, Assam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prof K D Baruah, Assam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to the German and French virologists for being rewarded with the prestigious Nobel prize for their discoveries. But WHY it is so late to recognize their credits by the Nobel Committee ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to the German and French virologists for being rewarded with the prestigious Nobel prize for their discoveries. But WHY it is so late to recognize their credits by the Nobel Committee ?</p>
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		<title>By: Chemgeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chemgeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nobel prize for the discovery of a virus (HIV) that doesn&#039;t do anything? A virus that especially does not cause AIDS! The ignorant must be livid!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nobel prize for the discovery of a virus (HIV) that doesn&#8217;t do anything? A virus that especially does not cause AIDS! The ignorant must be livid!!!</p>
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