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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to Sciencebase regular Grace Filby who recently received an award for her work on understanding and promoting bacteriophages:

&quot;A researcher’s work on the health value of bacteriophages has been rewarded with a Churchill Fellows Silver Medallion. Grace Filby, of Reigate, Surrey, travelled to Canada, Georgia, Poland and USA last year to see the application of phages in hospitals and clinics and explore the potential for 21st century medicine. Their ability to kill bacteria was first reported during the First World War. They started to be used as a treatment for infections before antibiotics became widely available. Her journeys were funded by the Winston Churchill Memorial Trust, which offers grants to British citizens for travel-related projects that benefit society. The Trust, in June, recognised Filby&#039;s work by awarding her the Churchill Fellows Silver Medallion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to Sciencebase regular Grace Filby who recently received an award for her work on understanding and promoting bacteriophages:</p>
<p>&#8220;A researcher’s work on the health value of bacteriophages has been rewarded with a Churchill Fellows Silver Medallion. Grace Filby, of Reigate, Surrey, travelled to Canada, Georgia, Poland and USA last year to see the application of phages in hospitals and clinics and explore the potential for 21st century medicine. Their ability to kill bacteria was first reported during the First World War. They started to be used as a treatment for infections before antibiotics became widely available. Her journeys were funded by the Winston Churchill Memorial Trust, which offers grants to British citizens for travel-related projects that benefit society. The Trust, in June, recognised Filby&#8217;s work by awarding her the Churchill Fellows Silver Medallion.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/viruses-versus-bacteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-177926</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may also be of interest to read the following from the Polish Academy of Sciences where I met patients who had already been treated with phages for MRSA bone infections. The website states: 

&quot;The indications of the range of phage therapy are as follows: septicemia, regardless of their origin, postoperative infections, mucopurulent bronchitis, asthma, pneumonia, pleuritis, furunculosis, otitis media, sinusitis, meningitis, acute lymphangitis, abscesses cutis and decubitus ulcer, pyogenic arthritis, myositis, osteomyelitis, suppurative infections after injuries of soft tissue, such as contusions, burns, pyogenic infection after bone fractures, and chronic infections of the urinary tract.&quot; 

The reference is  http://www.iitd.pan.wroc.pl/phages/phages.html 

Medical opinion from Prof. Bill V. Way, a dermatologist in the USA agrees with me that some of these would be very deep infections, not just shallow infections. The Polish scientists state categorically that more than 80% of patients were cured, and that detailed information can be obtained from Prof. Andrzej Gorski and Dr. Beata Weber-Dabrowska, e-mail: agorski@ikp.pl.

It will be interesting to hear the final result of the Phase 2 UK clinical trial nearing completion -

&quot;Prof. Tony Wright: Pseudomonas is one of the very, very common problems we have with ear disease and discharge. Often unpleasant colour, can be very smelly, and I&#039;ve seen patients as part of the trial who&#039;ve had infections for twenty years. On and off, but more on than off.&quot; In some instances there can be ulceration, mucopurulent discharge, and possible progression to very severe otitis externa, and in some very rare cases, even death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may also be of interest to read the following from the Polish Academy of Sciences where I met patients who had already been treated with phages for MRSA bone infections. The website states: </p>
<p>&#8220;The indications of the range of phage therapy are as follows: septicemia, regardless of their origin, postoperative infections, mucopurulent bronchitis, asthma, pneumonia, pleuritis, furunculosis, otitis media, sinusitis, meningitis, acute lymphangitis, abscesses cutis and decubitus ulcer, pyogenic arthritis, myositis, osteomyelitis, suppurative infections after injuries of soft tissue, such as contusions, burns, pyogenic infection after bone fractures, and chronic infections of the urinary tract.&#8221; </p>
<p>The reference is  <a href="http://www.iitd.pan.wroc.pl/phages/phages.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.iitd.pan.wroc.pl/phages/phages.html</a> </p>
<p>Medical opinion from Prof. Bill V. Way, a dermatologist in the USA agrees with me that some of these would be very deep infections, not just shallow infections. The Polish scientists state categorically that more than 80% of patients were cured, and that detailed information can be obtained from Prof. Andrzej Gorski and Dr. Beata Weber-Dabrowska, e-mail: <a href="mailto:agorski@ikp.pl">agorski@ikp.pl</a>.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to hear the final result of the Phase 2 UK clinical trial nearing completion -</p>
<p>&#8220;Prof. Tony Wright: Pseudomonas is one of the very, very common problems we have with ear disease and discharge. Often unpleasant colour, can be very smelly, and I&#8217;ve seen patients as part of the trial who&#8217;ve had infections for twenty years. On and off, but more on than off.&#8221; In some instances there can be ulceration, mucopurulent discharge, and possible progression to very severe otitis externa, and in some very rare cases, even death.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/viruses-versus-bacteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-177014</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please may I bring some specific research to your attention? It is explained in my Winston Churchill Report, as I mentioned. 

Please refer to page 5 regarding peritonitis: &quot;The message is that phages could be applied therapeutically as prevention or rescue work, directly through the lymphatic system - without even having to go through the blood system. Indeed, the experiments with animals and case reports of human patients indicate that it works very quickly and efficiently. &quot; This is from research in Georgia.

Then on pages 10 and 11, you will find some exciting news about novel applications of bacteriophages.  For example, regarding Alzheimer&#039;s, &quot;Administered through the nose, the phages can reach the brain directly and rapidly. Her (Prof. Beka Solomon, Israel)  team&#039;s research with mice demonstrates that phages can reduce the extracellular plaque and also brain inflammation without adverse effects. This may open the way for various new treatments of other neurological diseases including Parkinson&#039;s Disease and Huntingdon&#039;s Disease.&quot;

You will also see that there is some recent Polish research (all published in English) &quot;uniquely based on some inspiring observations that pieces of lung tissue bathed in HAP1 phages (lovely name!) had significantly less melanoma. The effect is clearly visible in photographs. The scientists state that the effect of phages is immunological. The research publications prove that, under well-defined circumstances, phages can have anti-metastatic activity (anti-cancer/anti-tumour).&quot; 

There is more news from Poland about anti-inflammatory diseases of the bowel and renal function. There is also the possibility of new therapeutic treatments or preventatives for a range of viral infections such as adenoviruses and the Herpes virus.

The other novel application that I am referring to in my report is that &quot;research indicates that phages could help in treating oral bacterial infection and biofilm too&quot;. There is a great deal of research and comment on this from the USA and the UK.

As I understand it, bacteriophages do only &#039;infect&#039; and destroy bacteria - but now it is becoming clear that they have other beneficial functions too in the body, that we were not aware of when they were first discovered and named 90 years ago. Perhaps this would explain some misunderstanding in the past in the role of bacteriophages regarding oncological and immunological interactions. 

So I stand by my comment: &quot;They are certainly versatile little organisms, whose value has been vastly underrated so far.&quot;  Hope that helps with the discussion. 

I would like to add that there is very strong evidence for phage safety, and also some very useful evidence that it is much cheaper than antibiotics for the treatment of staphylococcal infections - &#039;about half the cost of 10-day therapy with vancomycin and several times less compared with the other drugs&#039;  (Miedzybrodzki R et al, 2007.
 http://www.relax-well.co.uk/less_expensive_than_antibiotics.pdf )

The web addresses for the report are www.relax-well.co.uk and www.amazingphage.info (with photo galleries, a blog, recorded interviews with scientists and clinicians, etc.)

Many thanks. I hope you can help by letting people know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please may I bring some specific research to your attention? It is explained in my Winston Churchill Report, as I mentioned. </p>
<p>Please refer to page 5 regarding peritonitis: &#8220;The message is that phages could be applied therapeutically as prevention or rescue work, directly through the lymphatic system &#8211; without even having to go through the blood system. Indeed, the experiments with animals and case reports of human patients indicate that it works very quickly and efficiently. &#8221; This is from research in Georgia.</p>
<p>Then on pages 10 and 11, you will find some exciting news about novel applications of bacteriophages.  For example, regarding Alzheimer&#8217;s, &#8220;Administered through the nose, the phages can reach the brain directly and rapidly. Her (Prof. Beka Solomon, Israel)  team&#8217;s research with mice demonstrates that phages can reduce the extracellular plaque and also brain inflammation without adverse effects. This may open the way for various new treatments of other neurological diseases including Parkinson&#8217;s Disease and Huntingdon&#8217;s Disease.&#8221;</p>
<p>You will also see that there is some recent Polish research (all published in English) &#8220;uniquely based on some inspiring observations that pieces of lung tissue bathed in HAP1 phages (lovely name!) had significantly less melanoma. The effect is clearly visible in photographs. The scientists state that the effect of phages is immunological. The research publications prove that, under well-defined circumstances, phages can have anti-metastatic activity (anti-cancer/anti-tumour).&#8221; </p>
<p>There is more news from Poland about anti-inflammatory diseases of the bowel and renal function. There is also the possibility of new therapeutic treatments or preventatives for a range of viral infections such as adenoviruses and the Herpes virus.</p>
<p>The other novel application that I am referring to in my report is that &#8220;research indicates that phages could help in treating oral bacterial infection and biofilm too&#8221;. There is a great deal of research and comment on this from the USA and the UK.</p>
<p>As I understand it, bacteriophages do only &#8216;infect&#8217; and destroy bacteria &#8211; but now it is becoming clear that they have other beneficial functions too in the body, that we were not aware of when they were first discovered and named 90 years ago. Perhaps this would explain some misunderstanding in the past in the role of bacteriophages regarding oncological and immunological interactions. </p>
<p>So I stand by my comment: &#8220;They are certainly versatile little organisms, whose value has been vastly underrated so far.&#8221;  Hope that helps with the discussion. </p>
<p>I would like to add that there is very strong evidence for phage safety, and also some very useful evidence that it is much cheaper than antibiotics for the treatment of staphylococcal infections &#8211; &#8216;about half the cost of 10-day therapy with vancomycin and several times less compared with the other drugs&#8217;  (Miedzybrodzki R et al, 2007.<br />
 <a href="http://www.relax-well.co.uk/less_expensive_than_antibiotics.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.relax-well.co.uk/less_expensive_than_antibiotics.pdf</a> )</p>
<p>The web addresses for the report are <a href="http://www.relax-well.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.relax-well.co.uk</a> and <a href="http://www.amazingphage.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazingphage.info</a> (with photo galleries, a blog, recorded interviews with scientists and clinicians, etc.)</p>
<p>Many thanks. I hope you can help by letting people know.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/viruses-versus-bacteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-176959</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your input Michael. As I understand it from Häusler&#039;s book, that lack of antibiotics is not the only reason that Russian medics turned to bacteriophages. However, it does seem from the various case studies that shallow infections are most susceptible to bacteriophages while attacking an &quot;internal&quot; bacterial infection is a totally different matter. That isn&#039;t to say that scientists shouldn&#039;t continue to investigate antibacterial activity and putative anticancer activity. As we all know, there are no panaceas, just additional imperfect weapons in our battle against pathogens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input Michael. As I understand it from Häusler&#8217;s book, that lack of antibiotics is not the only reason that Russian medics turned to bacteriophages. However, it does seem from the various case studies that shallow infections are most susceptible to bacteriophages while attacking an &#8220;internal&#8221; bacterial infection is a totally different matter. That isn&#8217;t to say that scientists shouldn&#8217;t continue to investigate antibacterial activity and putative anticancer activity. As we all know, there are no panaceas, just additional imperfect weapons in our battle against pathogens.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From looking at all the comments I think you all have a very inaccurate understanding of what bacteriophages are.  They are viruses that only infect bacteria.  They are incapable of infecting cancer cells or other cells for that matter.  Bacteriophages are attacked by immune cells and destroyed easily inside the body.  Phage therapy is limited to shallow infections and cannot be used to treat internal infections.  Antibiotics were used in the west because they treated internal infections very well while the east [USSR especially] were forced to use phage therapy because of the lack of antibiotics available.  Until we find a way to alter bacteriophages to the point where our immune system doesn&#039;t attack them outright, the treatment can only be used on shallow infections and nothing more.  Cancer is being treated by certain genetically modified viruses, they are just nothing like bacteriophages by any means.  They are as related to bacteriophages as we are to house cats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From looking at all the comments I think you all have a very inaccurate understanding of what bacteriophages are.  They are viruses that only infect bacteria.  They are incapable of infecting cancer cells or other cells for that matter.  Bacteriophages are attacked by immune cells and destroyed easily inside the body.  Phage therapy is limited to shallow infections and cannot be used to treat internal infections.  Antibiotics were used in the west because they treated internal infections very well while the east [USSR especially] were forced to use phage therapy because of the lack of antibiotics available.  Until we find a way to alter bacteriophages to the point where our immune system doesn&#8217;t attack them outright, the treatment can only be used on shallow infections and nothing more.  Cancer is being treated by certain genetically modified viruses, they are just nothing like bacteriophages by any means.  They are as related to bacteriophages as we are to house cats.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/viruses-versus-bacteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-156430</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update Grace, I&#039;ve removed the period from the second link as a bug/feature in Wordpress means those little dots get incorporated into the URL.

db</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update Grace, I&#8217;ve removed the period from the second link as a bug/feature in Wordpress means those little dots get incorporated into the URL.</p>
<p>db</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/viruses-versus-bacteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-156424</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wondered if you would like to read my Churchill Fellowship Report...

Please download it from the news page of www.relax-well.co.uk or from www.amazingphage.info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered if you would like to read my Churchill Fellowship Report&#8230;</p>
<p>Please download it from the news page of <a href="http://www.relax-well.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.relax-well.co.uk</a> or from <a href="http://www.amazingphage.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazingphage.info</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/viruses-versus-bacteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-151242</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely an area that needs following up, of only there were the financial incentive for the pharma/biotech to take this on in parallel with the quest for small, patentable molecules.

db</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely an area that needs following up, of only there were the financial incentive for the pharma/biotech to take this on in parallel with the quest for small, patentable molecules.</p>
<p>db</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/viruses-versus-bacteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-151201</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure if this is relevant to the exact points you are making - however from my recent research visit to Poland, clearly a lot of work is being done on the anti-cancer activity of bacteriophages. I am referring to it briefly in the final report for the Winston Churchill Memorial Trust. There is more detail in my notes and also various published papers that they gave me for background reading. They are just starting up some new labs and all the equipment is there ready to be installed. I am sure this research area needs following up! The Polish scientists only very rarely go to international conferences with their posters or as speakers, so it is likely that their excellent work on this subject is not very well-known about yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure if this is relevant to the exact points you are making &#8211; however from my recent research visit to Poland, clearly a lot of work is being done on the anti-cancer activity of bacteriophages. I am referring to it briefly in the final report for the Winston Churchill Memorial Trust. There is more detail in my notes and also various published papers that they gave me for background reading. They are just starting up some new labs and all the equipment is there ready to be installed. I am sure this research area needs following up! The Polish scientists only very rarely go to international conferences with their posters or as speakers, so it is likely that their excellent work on this subject is not very well-known about yet.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/viruses-versus-bacteria.html/comment-page-1#comment-151170</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your right Chris, but there are some seriously distinct markers on the surface of cancer cells that could be targeted by an engineered bacteriophage injected directly into a tumour. Like you say though, preventing the phages attacking healthy cells would be very important, but this line of research could offer hope of attacking a whole range of cancers by &quot;growing&quot; bacteriophages for the particular type.

db</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your right Chris, but there are some seriously distinct markers on the surface of cancer cells that could be targeted by an engineered bacteriophage injected directly into a tumour. Like you say though, preventing the phages attacking healthy cells would be very important, but this line of research could offer hope of attacking a whole range of cancers by &#8220;growing&#8221; bacteriophages for the particular type.</p>
<p>db</p>
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