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	<description>Science Blog from Freelance Science Writer David Bradley</description>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are few facts about vitamin D. A person has to drink ten big glasses of fortified milk to get the minimum amounts of vitamin D every day also. People with dark skin need 20 to 30 times more of skin exposure to sunlight as fair-skinned people to get the same amount of vitamin D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are few facts about vitamin D. A person has to drink ten big glasses of fortified milk to get the minimum amounts of vitamin D every day also. People with dark skin need 20 to 30 times more of skin exposure to sunlight as fair-skinned people to get the same amount of vitamin D.</p>
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		<title>By: Shashin</title>
		<link>http://www.sciencebase.com/science-blog/vitamin-d-dilemma.html/comment-page-4#comment-641158</link>
		<dc:creator>Shashin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 22:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting blog. Vitamin D plays a very important role in our body to keep bones healthy and also prevent osteoporosis. A sufficient amount of exposure to sunlight is mandatory in order to synthesize vitamin D and sunlight is the best natural resource to gain vitamin D. Studies say that vitamin D requirement differs between children and adults but some people overexpose themselves to sunlight causing an overdose of sunlight and burning their skin and other side effects. So proper information about it is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting blog. Vitamin D plays a very important role in our body to keep bones healthy and also prevent osteoporosis. A sufficient amount of exposure to sunlight is mandatory in order to synthesize vitamin D and sunlight is the best natural resource to gain vitamin D. Studies say that vitamin D requirement differs between children and adults but some people overexpose themselves to sunlight causing an overdose of sunlight and burning their skin and other side effects. So proper information about it is required.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a great report Daved. Thanks. I have since been adding 11000 IU of D3 4 of 5 times a week. The only concern now that I have about D is that it can accumulate in the body over time, but from all that I know if one does not have the symptoms that the Marshall Protocol treats, then it shouldn&#039;t be a problem at these doses.

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/vitamin-d-and-h1n1-swine-flu.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a great report Daved. Thanks. I have since been adding 11000 IU of D3 4 of 5 times a week. The only concern now that I have about D is that it can accumulate in the body over time, but from all that I know if one does not have the symptoms that the Marshall Protocol treats, then it shouldn&#8217;t be a problem at these doses.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/vitamin-d-and-h1n1-swine-flu.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/vitamin-d-and-h1n1-swine-flu.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have further comment on vitamin D. Last winter I took 2,000 IU of vitamin D3 and suffered one really nasty cold and had a case of influenza that put me out of commission for nearly two weeks. This winter I upped the dose to 5,000 IU and have had no cold or flu symptoms whatsoever.

I did something else of interest.  Last November, to reduce my omega-6 fatty acid intake I stopped eating peanut butter. It was peanut butter sandwiches for lunch almost daily since 1972. A presentation by Dr. Bill Lands entitled &quot;Why Omega-6 Fat Matters For Your Health&quot; alerted me to the problem. 

And it was a problem. I&#039;ve been gradually losing mobility over the past decade due to chronic pain in my leg muscles. Now, four months after giving up peanut butter, I can run and jump and get up from a sitting position without effort. Excess omega-6 is likely a problem for many if they are too fond of nuts in general and peanuts in particular. Other sources of omega-6 are mayonnaise, salad dressings, baked goods, and commercially prepared fried  foods of all sorts.

http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2010/02/28/how_good_are_you_at_choosing_healthier_fats
http://180degreehealth.blogspot.com/2010/02/omega-6-content-of-common-foods.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have further comment on vitamin D. Last winter I took 2,000 IU of vitamin D3 and suffered one really nasty cold and had a case of influenza that put me out of commission for nearly two weeks. This winter I upped the dose to 5,000 IU and have had no cold or flu symptoms whatsoever.</p>
<p>I did something else of interest.  Last November, to reduce my omega-6 fatty acid intake I stopped eating peanut butter. It was peanut butter sandwiches for lunch almost daily since 1972. A presentation by Dr. Bill Lands entitled &#8220;Why Omega-6 Fat Matters For Your Health&#8221; alerted me to the problem. </p>
<p>And it was a problem. I&#8217;ve been gradually losing mobility over the past decade due to chronic pain in my leg muscles. Now, four months after giving up peanut butter, I can run and jump and get up from a sitting position without effort. Excess omega-6 is likely a problem for many if they are too fond of nuts in general and peanuts in particular. Other sources of omega-6 are mayonnaise, salad dressings, baked goods, and commercially prepared fried  foods of all sorts.</p>
<p><a href="http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2010/02/28/how_good_are_you_at_choosing_healthier_fats" rel="nofollow">http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2010/02/28/how_good_are_you_at_choosing_healthier_fats</a><br />
<a href="http://180degreehealth.blogspot.com/2010/02/omega-6-content-of-common-foods.html" rel="nofollow">http://180degreehealth.blogspot.com/2010/02/omega-6-content-of-common-foods.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Debi Seibert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debi Seibert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a long term sufferer of multiple tick borne pathogen infections living in Southeastern Pennsylvania countryside, and was drawn to sunshine when initially crippled by Lyme, HGE, HME, Babesiosis and Bartonella.  The broad spectrum of infectious diseases from tick bite(s?) created a multi-system infection and inflammation that not only paralyzed my body, but included conditions such as encephalomeningitis, stabbing pains, crippling arthritis, fibromyalgia and more.  The lack of sunshine in our wintertimes contributed to physical deterioration for me (and my family, also infected), while the springtime and sunnier seasons enabled us to remarkably regain better physical health and return to work, school and play. We&#039;ve all learned that our bodies desire sunshine and are drawn to it now.  I strongly believe our bodies know what is best for us, and in analogy of our situation, have determined by nature that the sun&#039;s vitamin D effect is good for us, contrary to what some so-called &quot;scientific&quot; people may state.  Too much emphasis has been placed on panel &quot;guidelines&quot; and &quot;scientific or medical suppositions&quot;.  Too bad for those who listen to them and not their bodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a long term sufferer of multiple tick borne pathogen infections living in Southeastern Pennsylvania countryside, and was drawn to sunshine when initially crippled by Lyme, HGE, HME, Babesiosis and Bartonella.  The broad spectrum of infectious diseases from tick bite(s?) created a multi-system infection and inflammation that not only paralyzed my body, but included conditions such as encephalomeningitis, stabbing pains, crippling arthritis, fibromyalgia and more.  The lack of sunshine in our wintertimes contributed to physical deterioration for me (and my family, also infected), while the springtime and sunnier seasons enabled us to remarkably regain better physical health and return to work, school and play. We&#8217;ve all learned that our bodies desire sunshine and are drawn to it now.  I strongly believe our bodies know what is best for us, and in analogy of our situation, have determined by nature that the sun&#8217;s vitamin D effect is good for us, contrary to what some so-called &#8220;scientific&#8221; people may state.  Too much emphasis has been placed on panel &#8220;guidelines&#8221; and &#8220;scientific or medical suppositions&#8221;.  Too bad for those who listen to them and not their bodies.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the report, David!!

I agree with your assessment that we have to be more investigative, before arbitrarily jumping on the suppliment train.

Let me just say that the D2 form of vitamin D is a natural immune suppressive on the Vitamin D Receptors (VDR). D3 is the active form that the body needs to attack infectious organisms. It is broken down by an enzyme if we have too much. Organisms such as L-Form Bacteria (biofilms) can create immune suppressive substances which displaces D3 off the Vitamin D Receptors (VDR)  in the immune system. Therefore, D2, D3 and the Bacteria are all competing for spots on the VDR. D3 is the big looser. It apprears that having too much D3 overwelms the enzyme that breaks it down. D3 has an affinity for attaching to the T-cell receptors blocking the normal action of T-cells. 

Basically a negative chain reaction in the immune sytem happens when we have too much D3 in our systems. To protect us from this potential damage and to have a reserve of D3, the body stores this excess D3 in the fat cells and the liver.

Now enter a suppliment of D3 to the mix and eventually the body has no place to put all this D3 and fails to break it down. The excess D3 shuts down our T-Cell immune system and disease (chronic and undefinable) is the result. 

You should know that current big pharma medicative theory has a love affair with immune suppressive drugs. There is a drug out for MS. In europe, it is being flagged because it is causing brain infections and killing patients. It is doing this because it is an immune suppressive drug.

Immune suppressants seem to work because patients feel better and the symptoms seem to go away, but the root cause is never addressed. If the patient is lucky (or unlucky) the disease goes into &quot;remission&quot;. Notice that they never say cure, because the disease is still active and will come back with a vegence. There is no more immune system left to block, therefore there is no immune suppressive drug that will work. The end result is bleak for the poor patient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the report, David!!</p>
<p>I agree with your assessment that we have to be more investigative, before arbitrarily jumping on the suppliment train.</p>
<p>Let me just say that the D2 form of vitamin D is a natural immune suppressive on the Vitamin D Receptors (VDR). D3 is the active form that the body needs to attack infectious organisms. It is broken down by an enzyme if we have too much. Organisms such as L-Form Bacteria (biofilms) can create immune suppressive substances which displaces D3 off the Vitamin D Receptors (VDR)  in the immune system. Therefore, D2, D3 and the Bacteria are all competing for spots on the VDR. D3 is the big looser. It apprears that having too much D3 overwelms the enzyme that breaks it down. D3 has an affinity for attaching to the T-cell receptors blocking the normal action of T-cells. </p>
<p>Basically a negative chain reaction in the immune sytem happens when we have too much D3 in our systems. To protect us from this potential damage and to have a reserve of D3, the body stores this excess D3 in the fat cells and the liver.</p>
<p>Now enter a suppliment of D3 to the mix and eventually the body has no place to put all this D3 and fails to break it down. The excess D3 shuts down our T-Cell immune system and disease (chronic and undefinable) is the result. </p>
<p>You should know that current big pharma medicative theory has a love affair with immune suppressive drugs. There is a drug out for MS. In europe, it is being flagged because it is causing brain infections and killing patients. It is doing this because it is an immune suppressive drug.</p>
<p>Immune suppressants seem to work because patients feel better and the symptoms seem to go away, but the root cause is never addressed. If the patient is lucky (or unlucky) the disease goes into &#8220;remission&#8221;. Notice that they never say cure, because the disease is still active and will come back with a vegence. There is no more immune system left to block, therefore there is no immune suppressive drug that will work. The end result is bleak for the poor patient.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further comment: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/vitamin-d-and-h1n1-swine-flu.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further comment: <a href="http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/vitamin-d-and-h1n1-swine-flu.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/newsletter/vitamin-d-and-h1n1-swine-flu.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s important to keep in mind that proper nutrition involves teamwork. A heavy dose of one particular nutrient can have detrimental effects if another member of the team is in short supply. There needs to be balance. http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/2008/07/23/vitamin_a_and_d_synergy_and_balance.htm

Regarding the assertion that vitamin D3 may inhibit immune response, the major modulators of immune response appear to be sugar http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/2008/07/23/vitamin_a_and_d_synergy_and_balance.htm and Omega-6 fatty acids http://omega-6-omega-3-balance.omegaoptimize.com/.

The important question is not whether vitamin D3 supplementation is harmful or helpful but in what nutritional context is supplementation of benefit? 

And as far as pathogens are concerned, the same sort of sugar/omega-6 oil laced diet that promotes an imbalance of gut flora may also set up an internal environment where vitamin D3 supplementation does more harm than good.

In my own personal experiment with vitamin D3 supplementation I am taking 5,000 IU  this year. Last year the dose was 2,000 IU and I experienced one cold and one bout with influenza. In my younger years when I was not supplementing with anything I never developed flu symptoms and experienced a cold about once every five years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to keep in mind that proper nutrition involves teamwork. A heavy dose of one particular nutrient can have detrimental effects if another member of the team is in short supply. There needs to be balance. <a href="http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/2008/07/23/vitamin_a_and_d_synergy_and_balance.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/2008/07/23/vitamin_a_and_d_synergy_and_balance.htm</a></p>
<p>Regarding the assertion that vitamin D3 may inhibit immune response, the major modulators of immune response appear to be sugar <a href="http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/2008/07/23/vitamin_a_and_d_synergy_and_balance.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/2008/07/23/vitamin_a_and_d_synergy_and_balance.htm</a> and Omega-6 fatty acids <a href="http://omega-6-omega-3-balance.omegaoptimize.com/" rel="nofollow">http://omega-6-omega-3-balance.omegaoptimize.com/</a>.</p>
<p>The important question is not whether vitamin D3 supplementation is harmful or helpful but in what nutritional context is supplementation of benefit? </p>
<p>And as far as pathogens are concerned, the same sort of sugar/omega-6 oil laced diet that promotes an imbalance of gut flora may also set up an internal environment where vitamin D3 supplementation does more harm than good.</p>
<p>In my own personal experiment with vitamin D3 supplementation I am taking 5,000 IU  this year. Last year the dose was 2,000 IU and I experienced one cold and one bout with influenza. In my younger years when I was not supplementing with anything I never developed flu symptoms and experienced a cold about once every five years.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davis,

I&#039;m not sure what you mean.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick No matter how nicely you word an argument, you cannot, repeat cannot, conduct a statistically significant, scientific, placebo-controlled, double-blind clinical trial with you as the only member of the experimental cohort and the one administering the treatment. You might perceive a positive effect, but how do you know that simply popping a sugar pill that someone told you was the &quot;drug&quot; wouldn&#039;t have had just the same effect? You cannot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick No matter how nicely you word an argument, you cannot, repeat cannot, conduct a statistically significant, scientific, placebo-controlled, double-blind clinical trial with you as the only member of the experimental cohort and the one administering the treatment. You might perceive a positive effect, but how do you know that simply popping a sugar pill that someone told you was the &#8220;drug&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t have had just the same effect? You cannot.</p>
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